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Post by eldiablo on Jun 9, 2008 12:27:34 GMT -5
NBA has a salary cap, so they're playing by the same set of rules as everyone... unlike a certain team in another sport that will remain nameless. hahahaha- some of you people are hilarious on here. Well the suggestion that the Celtics are buying a title is beyond ridiculous... they traded for both Garnett and Allen, it's not their fault the Sonics and T'Wolves were dumb enough to accept the trades.
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Post by orangenation on Jun 9, 2008 12:34:32 GMT -5
hahahaha- some of you people are hilarious on here. Well the suggestion that the Celtics are buying a title is beyond ridiculous... they traded for both Garnett and Allen, it's not their fault the Sonics and T'Wolves were dumb enough to accept the trades. That's the whole reason they went and got garnett and allen and there big contracts is to get to a champhionship. Did they not do that?
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Post by jordoo on Jun 9, 2008 12:45:42 GMT -5
Hard to buy a championship in a salary cap league. I bet there are alot of teams way over the cap that are no longer playing. Denver for one. I'm not really sure where the Celtics sit in relationship to the cap. Boston made 2 trades and got the best of both of them. Then the Memphis practiacally gift wraps Gasol and takes the lakers worst contract back in return. I actually was surprised that David Stern didn't veto that trade, it was about as one sided as any trade I can remember.
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Post by eldiablo on Jun 9, 2008 12:53:02 GMT -5
Well the suggestion that the Celtics are buying a title is beyond ridiculous... they traded for both Garnett and Allen, it's not their fault the Sonics and T'Wolves were dumb enough to accept the trades. That's the whole reason they went and got garnett and allen and there big contracts is to get to a champhionship. Did they not do that? Any team in the NBA can do that. The salary cap keeps it an even playing field, the Celtics just happened to be more aggressive about it this offseason. By your logic, every NBA team since the salary cap was instituted has "bought" a championship. And it's entirely different than just going out and throwing as much money as you can at whoever is out there just because you've got more than anyone else
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Post by orangenation on Jun 9, 2008 12:56:09 GMT -5
Hard to buy a championship in a salary cap league. I bet there are alot of teams way over the cap that are no longer playing. Denver for one. I'm not really sure where the Celtics sit in relationship to the cap. Boston made 2 trades and got the best of both of them. Then the Memphis practiacally gift wraps Gasol and takes the lakers worst contract back in return. I actually was surprised that David Stern didn't veto that trade, it was about as one sided as any trade I can remember. So then why did the celtics get the 3 big players for then??? Teams spend money on players and make trades to try to go out and get to the chamionship games in all sports.
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Post by eldiablo on Jun 9, 2008 12:57:54 GMT -5
Hard to buy a championship in a salary cap league. I bet there are alot of teams way over the cap that are no longer playing. Denver for one. I'm not really sure where the Celtics sit in relationship to the cap. Boston made 2 trades and got the best of both of them. Then the Memphis practiacally gift wraps Gasol and takes the lakers worst contract back in return. I actually was surprised that David Stern didn't veto that trade, it was about as one sided as any trade I can remember. So then why did the celtics get the 3 big players for then??? Teams spend money on players and make trades to try to go out and get to the chamionship games in all sports. Making good trades to position yourself for a title run is not "buying" a championship.
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Post by orangenation on Jun 9, 2008 13:07:50 GMT -5
So then why did the celtics get the 3 big players for then??? Teams spend money on players and make trades to try to go out and get to the chamionship games in all sports. Making good trades to position yourself for a title run is not "buying" a championship. After 20 years of the celtics doing nothing it looks like that to me. Making 3 big trades. But you just want to argue about the salary cap bs.
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Post by eldiablo on Jun 9, 2008 13:15:02 GMT -5
Making good trades to position yourself for a title run is not "buying" a championship. After 20 years of the celtics doing nothing it looks like that to me. Making 3 big trades. But you just want to argue about the salary cap bs. Because the salary cap has everything to do with this argument. You can't "buy" a championship when there's a limit on the amount of money you can spend. As for them not doing anything for 20 years, who cares? They finally decided to actually get proactive and do something positive for the organization. Is that really a bad thing?
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Post by orangenation on Jun 9, 2008 14:09:29 GMT -5
After 20 years of the celtics doing nothing it looks like that to me. Making 3 big trades. But you just want to argue about the salary cap bs. Because the salary cap has everything to do with this argument. You can't "buy" a championship when there's a limit on the amount of money you can spend. As for them not doing anything for 20 years, who cares? They finally decided to actually get proactive and do something positive for the organization. Is that really a bad thing? I was just looking at the big money, but nobody will let me argue that.
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Post by eldiablo on Jun 9, 2008 14:16:49 GMT -5
Because the salary cap has everything to do with this argument. You can't "buy" a championship when there's a limit on the amount of money you can spend. As for them not doing anything for 20 years, who cares? They finally decided to actually get proactive and do something positive for the organization. Is that really a bad thing? I was just looking at the big money, but nobody will let me argue that. It's not that I'm not letting you argue it, I just don't see it as a valid argument without taking the other factors into account as well.
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Post by orangenation on Jun 9, 2008 14:21:55 GMT -5
I was just looking at the big money, but nobody will let me argue that. It's not that I'm not letting you argue it, I just don't see it as a valid argument without taking the other factors into account as well. So if kevin garnett has 1 million dollars is that different then alex rodriguez 1 million dollars??
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Post by eldiablo on Jun 9, 2008 14:32:54 GMT -5
It's not that I'm not letting you argue it, I just don't see it as a valid argument without taking the other factors into account as well. So if kevin garnett has 1 million dollars is that different then alex rodriguez 1 million dollars?? No, but I'm not quite sure where you're going with this.
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Post by orangenation on Jun 9, 2008 14:42:20 GMT -5
So if kevin garnett has 1 million dollars is that different then alex rodriguez 1 million dollars?? No, but I'm not quite sure where you're going with this. Celtics can spend money you all seem fine with it, the yankees spend money all hell breaks loose. You change your attitude if it's baseball. Yet they both spend shitloads of money. Yet all teams are doing the same thing spend money/trades to get to the championship. Some just have a different view of things.
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Post by jordoo on Jun 10, 2008 8:17:03 GMT -5
No, but I'm not quite sure where you're going with this. Celtics can spend money you all seem fine with it, the yankees spend money all hell breaks loose. You change your attitude if it's baseball. Yet they both spend shitloads of money. Yet all teams are doing the same thing spend money/trades to get to the championship. Some just have a different view of things. Baseball has no salary cap. That all that needs to be said.
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Post by eldiablo on Jun 10, 2008 9:00:31 GMT -5
No, but I'm not quite sure where you're going with this. Celtics can spend money you all seem fine with it, the yankees spend money all hell breaks loose. You change your attitude if it's baseball. Yet they both spend shitloads of money. Yet all teams are doing the same thing spend money/trades to get to the championship. Some just have a different view of things. That's where the salary cap comes into play. No one is arguing that teams don't spend money, obviously everyone has to spend money. But with a salary cap everyone is spending roughly the same amount of money. In baseball there is no salary cap and the Yankees are outspending everyone else in the league by at least 70 million.
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