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Post by pbfootb all72 on Jul 17, 2008 9:10:32 GMT -5
Ok Everyone. Totally unrelated, but I need some advice on a job i'm working at right now. It's gotten really bad and I don't know what to do so i'm gonna ask for some advice and hopefully can get it. The mother isn't very helpful right now lol.
So i'm a 20 year old college student. Some of you know I am a D3 tennis player, finished second in my conference this season an while at the conference tournament, I got a job offer from a man who wanted me to teach tennis at a summer camp this summer. He said with an attitude like mine and skill like mine, I could make $3500 this summer and were an hour and a half away from New York City. I would be the only American tennis counselor and would need to interact with kids well. It's something that I've done before and $3500 dollars for 9 weeks of work? Where do I sign up?
My boss is a tennis player from India who runs a lot of tennis camps in upstate NY and Florida. When I got to the camp three week ago, I noticed a lot of different people. Turns out the summer camp is a Jewish Camp, not that theres anything wrong with that but from a guy who's been raised as a catholic all his life it was different. The people are nice, the kids are great, but my boss is the biggest asshole in the world.
Theres 17 tennis counselors that he has, all foreign except me. These foreign tennis players are D-1 players who have student visa's to play here, but shouldn't be working in America they don't have working papers. So he won't let any of us leave the camp in fear of getting caught. If they get caught without their papers, he loses his business's and he's on the next flight back to India for employing illegal players. He swears at us all the time, tells us were worthless and the foreign tennis players can't really do anything because if they go anywhere, it's back to their home countries, but for me it's a bit different.
I get treated very differently then all of them. We don't start teaching until 9 am, but I have to get up at 6 to read names of kids who are getting private lessons, fill up 20 water coolers and carry them all over camp, stack all the courts with balls so they are ready for when the foreign players get ready to teach. I do this 7 days a week, and then have to teach 8 hours of group tennis lessons after wards. I bust my ass doing all this extra work when I am not getting paid for it. I get sworn at whenever something goes wrong. I get told daily i'm "fing dumb" and was recently told that i'm not able to teach private lessons because i'm not good enough, when there are some foreign players who i have beaten while playing with them here. Private Lessons = extra money and I have built up good relationships with kids while giving group lessons where they have been requesting me, but they are not allowing me to give them. It's getting to the point where i'm starting to get sick and tired and getting harassed by this man, and i'm ready to tell him where to stick it. I don't have a job back home in the 315 and he tells everyone he won't give any money out until the end of the camp. I don't know what to do. I want to quit but I need money. my family is telling me to suck it up, but It's hard getting treated like I have no rights. can anyone give me some advice on how to handle the situation? Should I just keep my mouth shut and finish out. the last day of camp is August 15th. Am i making too big of a deal about nothing? I'm just a 20 year old who thought I was going to have the sickest summer job ever, when it turned out to be absolute hell. thanks for the advice in advanced.
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Post by eldiablo on Jul 17, 2008 9:25:55 GMT -5
At the risk of being too harsh, you're not the first one to have a shitty summer job and you won't be the last. But that's the beauty of summer jobs, when the summer is over so is the job. You said it's over on Aug. 15th, so you've really only got about a month left to stick it out and it's highly unlikely you're going to find a job anywhere else at this point.
Chalk it up to a learning experience. More often than not, if a gig sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Just count it as a lesson that it might be in your best interest to look into the gig a little deeper in the future before just diving right in (I'm assuming that's how it played out given your post). Plus, you'll be dealing with asshole superiors the rest of your life... maybe not that extreme, but they're everywhere. Try to learn as much as you can about how to survive when dealing with a guy like this and you'll just be that much more prepared for it in the future.
Also, take this as further proof why your degree is so important. If you're playing D3, I'm assuming that a career in tennis isn't in your future, so your career will depend on that degree. I know there were many times I questioned whether going to college was really worth it, but then I remembered some of my summer jobs and it quickly set myself straight. I never wanted to do stuff like that again and I was going to school to make sure I didn't have to.
Anyway, not sure if any of that was really what you were looking for but I figured I'd throw my 2 cents in... and I'm now off to kill myself because I'm pretty sure my dad gave me a similar speech when I was your age and I always said I'll be different than him... lol
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Post by jordoo on Jul 17, 2008 10:06:19 GMT -5
I'll preface with saying that I never finished college because it wasn't for me. Anyway I have to agree with eldiablo's points. I would never have gone to college period if it wasn't for this one SOB restaraunt owner that I worked for. The guy was relentless and actually made me so upset that I could feel the teers coming (I was 19) and I had to leave so as not to be embaraasses. You know what he came after me and told me (with no one around of course) that I was better than bumming around and that he was hard on me because I was worth it. He was still a straight up dick but I ended up going to school and running his restaraunt right down to ordering the food. I was better at it than he was but I of course quickly realized that he was lounging around while I made was making him big bucks. Anyway I owe alot to that guy he gave me rihno skin and a black heart when it comes to business and both have served me well. I now have a cushy job sitting in an office working for another SOB who no one else can stand and you know what he does all the stressing and I jiust leave with no worries at 5pm everyday. LOL. You may not get much out of your job but if your able to stick it out bite your tongue and grow some thick skin you will be a little bit ahead of the game when stacked against the many woosies that this country now produces.
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Post by pbfootb all72 on Jul 17, 2008 10:41:08 GMT -5
I Understand what both of you are saying an I do agree to the point that it will make me stronger int he long run. I don't think I have the heart for quitting, i've never done that before, but it's just a bad experience. Hopefully i can just bite my tounge and get the next month over with. thanks for the help guys!
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Post by m0yolives on Jul 18, 2008 6:54:26 GMT -5
LOL@! You guys are better then me. I would have FLIPPED out on him the first time he said some foul shyt to me. "m0yo you are fing stupid".....UH....no. There is no way I take that. My skin is thick but my skull isn't. Someone talks down to me while illegally running a sweat shop I'm going to think I have the guy by the balls. So I'd look up my legal rights of employment and find out if what he is doing is really truly illegal. Then I'd present to him that what he is doing is illegal. THEN I'd dare him to try to make me work like kunta kente all while cursing at me. I'd hang his ass out to dry and SUE him on top of that.
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Post by bballnf1 on Jul 18, 2008 11:02:32 GMT -5
Screw them all. I would call immigration and blow them in and send them packing. No boss should swear at employees no matter what.
I am like mOyos and would have told him to piss up a rope the first time and I would have quit and knocked him on his eat no cows ass the second time.
You can always finish the summer out at some minimum wage job without all the hassles and crap
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Post by gocraz4dasu on Jul 19, 2008 20:06:33 GMT -5
Ok Everyone. Totally unrelated, but I need some advice on a job i'm working at right now. It's gotten really bad and I don't know what to do so i'm gonna ask for some advice and hopefully can get it. The mother isn't very helpful right now lol. So i'm a 20 year old college student. Some of you know I am a D3 tennis player, finished second in my conference this season an while at the conference tournament, I got a job offer from a man who wanted me to teach tennis at a summer camp this summer. He said with an attitude like mine and skill like mine, I could make $3500 this summer and were an hour and a half away from New York City. I would be the only American tennis counselor and would need to interact with kids well. It's something that I've done before and $3500 dollars for 9 weeks of work? Where do I sign up? My boss is a tennis player from India who runs a lot of tennis camps in upstate NY and Florida. When I got to the camp three week ago, I noticed a lot of different people. Turns out the summer camp is a Jewish Camp, not that theres anything wrong with that but from a guy who's been raised as a catholic all his life it was different. The people are nice, the kids are great, but my boss is the biggest asshole in the world. Theres 17 tennis counselors that he has, all foreign except me. These foreign tennis players are D-1 players who have student visa's to play here, but shouldn't be working in America they don't have working papers. So he won't let any of us leave the camp in fear of getting caught. If they get caught without their papers, he loses his business's and he's on the next flight back to India for employing illegal players. He swears at us all the time, tells us were worthless and the foreign tennis players can't really do anything because if they go anywhere, it's back to their home countries, but for me it's a bit different. I get treated very differently then all of them. We don't start teaching until 9 am, but I have to get up at 6 to read names of kids who are getting private lessons, fill up 20 water coolers and carry them all over camp, stack all the courts with balls so they are ready for when the foreign players get ready to teach. I do this 7 days a week, and then have to teach 8 hours of group tennis lessons after wards. I bust my ass doing all this extra work when I am not getting paid for it. I get sworn at whenever something goes wrong. I get told daily i'm "fing dumb" and was recently told that i'm not able to teach private lessons because i'm not good enough, when there are some foreign players who i have beaten while playing with them here. Private Lessons = extra money and I have built up good relationships with kids while giving group lessons where they have been requesting me, but they are not allowing me to give them. It's getting to the point where i'm starting to get sick and tired and getting harassed by this man, and i'm ready to tell him where to stick it. I don't have a job back home in the 315 and he tells everyone he won't give any money out until the end of the camp. I don't know what to do. I want to quit but I need money. my family is telling me to suck it up, but It's hard getting treated like I have no rights. can anyone give me some advice on how to handle the situation? Should I just keep my mouth shut and finish out. the last day of camp is August 15th. Am i making too big of a deal about nothing? I'm just a 20 year old who thought I was going to have the sickest summer job ever, when it turned out to be absolute hell. thanks for the advice in advanced. Id whoop his ass
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Post by tbuc15 on Jul 19, 2008 23:03:02 GMT -5
Tell him to pay you however much he owes you now and leave and if he doesn't pay you... Hello is this is police... you get the point.
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Post by jimk80 on Jul 21, 2008 15:43:18 GMT -5
tbuc nailed it. Get the money in cash.
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Post by pbfootb all72 on Jul 21, 2008 16:53:43 GMT -5
So Next news of advice. He pissed me off one last time and i got in an argument with him so I told him I was leaving. I said to give me the money I was owed and I would be gone in the morning. He only gives me 650 dollars for 3 weeks of work. I was amazed, he said thats all you worked and he refused to give me more. You have no idea how pissed I am. I'm so tempted to turn that bastard in. I almost hit hi between the teeth.
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Post by ytownorange on Jul 21, 2008 17:29:01 GMT -5
There has got to be ONE of us who is a lawyer who can call and scare the piss out of this guy....come on guys hook his ass up!!
I also wouldve knocked the effer out had he talked to me like that.
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Post by 2DUGGAharris on Jul 21, 2008 17:43:48 GMT -5
Ok Everyone. Totally unrelated, but I need some advice on a job i'm working at right now. It's gotten really bad and I don't know what to do so i'm gonna ask for some advice and hopefully can get it. The mother isn't very helpful right now lol. So i'm a 20 year old college student. Some of you know I am a D3 tennis player, finished second in my conference this season an while at the conference tournament, I got a job offer from a man who wanted me to teach tennis at a summer camp this summer. He said with an attitude like mine and skill like mine, I could make $3500 this summer and were an hour and a half away from New York City. I would be the only American tennis counselor and would need to interact with kids well. It's something that I've done before and $3500 dollars for 9 weeks of work? Where do I sign up? My boss is a tennis player from India who runs a lot of tennis camps in upstate NY and Florida. When I got to the camp three week ago, I noticed a lot of different people. Turns out the summer camp is a Jewish Camp, not that theres anything wrong with that but from a guy who's been raised as a catholic all his life it was different. The people are nice, the kids are great, but my boss is the biggest asshole in the world. Theres 17 tennis counselors that he has, all foreign except me. These foreign tennis players are D-1 players who have student visa's to play here, but shouldn't be working in America they don't have working papers. So he won't let any of us leave the camp in fear of getting caught. If they get caught without their papers, he loses his business's and he's on the next flight back to India for employing illegal players. He swears at us all the time, tells us were worthless and the foreign tennis players can't really do anything because if they go anywhere, it's back to their home countries, but for me it's a bit different. I get treated very differently then all of them. We don't start teaching until 9 am, but I have to get up at 6 to read names of kids who are getting private lessons, fill up 20 water coolers and carry them all over camp, stack all the courts with balls so they are ready for when the foreign players get ready to teach. I do this 7 days a week, and then have to teach 8 hours of group tennis lessons after wards. I bust my ass doing all this extra work when I am not getting paid for it. I get sworn at whenever something goes wrong. I get told daily i'm "fing dumb" and was recently told that i'm not able to teach private lessons because i'm not good enough, when there are some foreign players who i have beaten while playing with them here. Private Lessons = extra money and I have built up good relationships with kids while giving group lessons where they have been requesting me, but they are not allowing me to give them. It's getting to the point where i'm starting to get sick and tired and getting harassed by this man, and i'm ready to tell him where to stick it. I don't have a job back home in the 315 and he tells everyone he won't give any money out until the end of the camp. I don't know what to do. I want to quit but I need money. my family is telling me to suck it up, but It's hard getting treated like I have no rights. can anyone give me some advice on how to handle the situation? Should I just keep my mouth shut and finish out. the last day of camp is August 15th. Am i making too big of a deal about nothing? I'm just a 20 year old who thought I was going to have the sickest summer job ever, when it turned out to be absolute hell. thanks for the advice in advanced. Come on man,first of all the whole thing has been illegal by this guy. I realize it is also your version of the story but I will still help you. PM me and I PROMISE to take care of the situation in a very nice manner,I am beyond serious pbfootball,I will straighten the whole thing out within days,just PM me to start so I can get phone numbers. I am gonna help ya and no one gets harmed or in trouble,this way you will be back home early and with more money than expected !!!!!!
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Post by orangenation on Jul 21, 2008 18:21:50 GMT -5
Ok Everyone. Totally unrelated, but I need some advice on a job i'm working at right now. It's gotten really bad and I don't know what to do so i'm gonna ask for some advice and hopefully can get it. The mother isn't very helpful right now lol. So i'm a 20 year old college student. Some of you know I am a D3 tennis player, finished second in my conference this season an while at the conference tournament, I got a job offer from a man who wanted me to teach tennis at a summer camp this summer. He said with an attitude like mine and skill like mine, I could make $3500 this summer and were an hour and a half away from New York City. I would be the only American tennis counselor and would need to interact with kids well. It's something that I've done before and $3500 dollars for 9 weeks of work? Where do I sign up? My boss is a tennis player from India who runs a lot of tennis camps in upstate NY and Florida. When I got to the camp three week ago, I noticed a lot of different people. Turns out the summer camp is a Jewish Camp, not that theres anything wrong with that but from a guy who's been raised as a catholic all his life it was different. The people are nice, the kids are great, but my boss is the biggest asshole in the world. Theres 17 tennis counselors that he has, all foreign except me. These foreign tennis players are D-1 players who have student visa's to play here, but shouldn't be working in America they don't have working papers. So he won't let any of us leave the camp in fear of getting caught. If they get caught without their papers, he loses his business's and he's on the next flight back to India for employing illegal players. He swears at us all the time, tells us were worthless and the foreign tennis players can't really do anything because if they go anywhere, it's back to their home countries, but for me it's a bit different. I get treated very differently then all of them. We don't start teaching until 9 am, but I have to get up at 6 to read names of kids who are getting private lessons, fill up 20 water coolers and carry them all over camp, stack all the courts with balls so they are ready for when the foreign players get ready to teach. I do this 7 days a week, and then have to teach 8 hours of group tennis lessons after wards. I bust my ass doing all this extra work when I am not getting paid for it. I get sworn at whenever something goes wrong. I get told daily i'm "fing dumb" and was recently told that i'm not able to teach private lessons because i'm not good enough, when there are some foreign players who i have beaten while playing with them here. Private Lessons = extra money and I have built up good relationships with kids while giving group lessons where they have been requesting me, but they are not allowing me to give them. It's getting to the point where i'm starting to get sick and tired and getting harassed by this man, and i'm ready to tell him where to stick it. I don't have a job back home in the 315 and he tells everyone he won't give any money out until the end of the camp. I don't know what to do. I want to quit but I need money. my family is telling me to suck it up, but It's hard getting treated like I have no rights. can anyone give me some advice on how to handle the situation? Should I just keep my mouth shut and finish out. the last day of camp is August 15th. Am i making too big of a deal about nothing? I'm just a 20 year old who thought I was going to have the sickest summer job ever, when it turned out to be absolute hell. thanks for the advice in advanced. Come on man,first of all the whole thing has been illegal by this guy. I realize it is also your version of the story but I will still help you. PM me and I PROMISE to take care of the situation in a very nice manner,I am beyond serious pbfootball,I will straighten the whole thing out within days,just PM me to start so I can get phone numbers. I am gonna help ya and no one gets harmed or in trouble,this way you will be back home early and with more money than expected !!!!!! What are you going to have jimmy hoffa do to this guy dugga??
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Post by 2DUGGAharris on Jul 21, 2008 19:21:32 GMT -5
Come on man,first of all the whole thing has been illegal by this guy. I realize it is also your version of the story but I will still help you. PM me and I PROMISE to take care of the situation in a very nice manner,I am beyond serious pbfootball,I will straighten the whole thing out within days,just PM me to start so I can get phone numbers. I am gonna help ya and no one gets harmed or in trouble,this way you will be back home early and with more money than expected !!!!!! What are you going to have jimmy hoffa do to this guy dugga?? What?? I think you are mixed up,Jimmy Hoffa didn't do anything except die(well earned a lot of money,for Tony Pro) and NOOOOOOOO he is not buried in the Meadowlands. By now Jimmy's bones are long gone in a compacted car that was already melted down in China by now !!!!
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Post by DitkaCuse on Jul 21, 2008 19:37:14 GMT -5
So Next news of advice. He pissed me off one last time and i got in an argument with him so I told him I was leaving. I said to give me the money I was owed and I would be gone in the morning. He only gives me 650 dollars for 3 weeks of work. I was amazed, he said thats all you worked and he refused to give me more. You have no idea how pissed I am. I'm so tempted to turn that bastard in. I almost hit hi between the teeth. So 3,500 for 9 weeks....and he gives you 650 for weeks? Sounds like you should've gotten almost twice that.
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